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@docs4theppl @WithoutHisEyes i think you're onto something. "socialize" and "further monetize" should be diametric opposites but with omnipotent insurance companies we get the worst of both-- unaccountable planning committees aren't socialist by definition (or communist) they're just bad planning
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@docs4theppl @WithoutHisEyes bottoms-up power should be possible in both capitalist and socialist structures, and top-down kills people whether it's free market, communist, or anywhere in between