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@isosteph I lived in Oakland for 11 years, also can't live w/o a 99ranch (berlin has been hard), and i love SL,UT actually. Wouldnt move back to SF for any job/salary. UT is more catholic than mormon and rapidly growing latino population (largely from perú, fun fact!)
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@isosteph Also i work in SSI so half the US companies i interact with are in provo. A cheap, young, hardworking and usually multilingual workforce, worldly by flyover standards, is nothing to sneeze at!